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It happens every fucking time we get our payslip at work. It's almost like clockwork. As soon as the email arrives containing the PDF file showing your hours worked and how much you got paid for the week  there will be someone, somewhere in the office, moaning "Oh, geez! I can't believe how much we pay in tax!".

Yes, you better fucking believe it. And thanks Christ for that too! We have some of the safest cities of the world, free healthcare, well equipped and well prepared armed forces, a comprehensive social security safety net, functional government, a proper school system and fucking clean streets!!

Do you want to go and live in a country with nothing but private health care? Fine, go and come crying back home the second that you need to sell your first born because you got cancer. Wanna go to Africa where kids have to show receipt of payment on a daily basis before they are allowed into school to study? Or how about you go to Central America, where cops are paid so little that bribery and corruption is the only way to make a living?
Didn't think so.

The question is not so much how much we pay in taxes but how those taxes are being used. That's what we need to fight for. Making sure our money is being used for the greater good, not just thrown away to fatten the pocket of the few.

I'll get off my Socialist soapbox now.
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!j-krumweed Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Doesn't Austrailia have one of the highest standards of living in the world? I can't remember where I heard that.

Here in the US it's all bitching about how high taxes are, mostly from the middle class and the rich. Corporate taxes, federal taxes, state taxes, all too high, too high! Yeah, too high. They were too high under Clinton, too high even with the extension of the Bush Tax cuts, or so some would have you think. Know what? If you don't like the taxes, then fine. But what do you want to give up? A well equipped police force? Public education? What would you like to give up so that you're taxes are minimal? And anything that might raise taxes even a little bit, like say... a Public Option healthcare plan (or Single Payer), well, that'd be TOO MUCH and we can't have that! Who cares if it would benefit the whole of the population (which is what section 8a of the Article 1 of the American constitution allows for, raising of taxes for the GENERAL WELFARE), they treat it like somehow they're being robbed. They make excuses about government being wasteful and not needing anymore money. And yet no one had problems when Bush wasted all those billions in tax dollars on top of the surplus he inherited from the Clinton administration by showering the rich with tax benefits and tax breaks (hooray for trickle down pipe dreams) or when he sent our military on a wild goose chase into Iraq for Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Maybe people in industrialized countries have become spoiled and have forgotten that there are countries that don't have the infrastructure that we have and that our TAXES paid for it. Of course, the US infrastructure needs some tweaking (like universal healthcare and more money on education and less on researching new weapons and tax breaks for the wealthy), but there are places that are worse off. So quite complaining and pay your taxes.
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*Carlos-the-G Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's a creeping culture of 'ME! ME! MEEEEEEEEE!' People don't realise that they live peaceful lives because their taxes made it so.
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!j-krumweed Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
And then they call it "libertarian". It's not libertarian it's just greedy.
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:icondrpain522:
I wish I could say my country gave me all those things for my taxes, but it just seems to go to politicians payrolls and they dont get anything done here in the states which is horribly irratating especially right now the way things are just snowballing into bigger problems.
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*s1naptic Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed.

There's always that guy I suppose, no matter where you live... I live in the US, so it's not just one guy doing that when the paychecks go out, it's about 80% of the office moaning in unison and calling for Obama's head on a pole.
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:iconnoisybubbles:
I have to agree with you there dude. I think people forget that by paying these taxes we keep things such as Medicare and bulk billing at doctor's surgeries, social security benefits (I say that grudgingly, as I cannot stand Centrelink), lower school fees in the public education system...while it is not a perfect system, it is a good system, and people need to realise that through taxes we do indeed help this system continue. I personally cannot afford private health cover, and am grateful for the fact that I can use a Medicare card and not have to pay to go see a doctor. And hell, if you want to extend that, the tax system also allows many people who are not wealthy and cannot pay excessive amounts of fees to go to university. This is a godsend to many, including myself, and we should be thankful for such opportunities.

I am going to stop there before I start to ramble. But thanks once again for the insightful words :D
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:iconbyzantea:
"I'll get off my Socialist soapbox now." It's when you pull out one liners like that, I always manage to giggle.
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~philipski Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Fucken'!
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:icontwinsnake-coatl:
I think it was Jefferson who said that a government that gives you everything has the power to take away everything.

Admitedlly though, there's a bit of jealousy in that comment since I live in one of the countries you mention. Where do my taxes go? Among other things, useless and overpriced monuments. [link]
And what about a severe lack of priorities? Government officials are suggesting stopping riots and murders within prisons by improving life conditions there. Okay, that makes sense. But what about all the public school that can't even afford windows or even a damn floor?!
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*Carlos-the-G Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I hate to rain on Jefferson's parade but the problem is that the same applies to private industry. In fact, even more so.
As I mentioned before, the public can vote out a government but not a board of directors. Private industry will only do what is profitable and in the interest of it's investors, and that is usually in contrast with the needs of the community.
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